tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post8448011008603482493..comments2024-01-13T08:02:36.141-08:00Comments on vAlmIki rAmAyaNa humanified and humanised: #001E Reply to Comments of Shri Hariharanybr (alias ybrao a donkey)http://www.blogger.com/profile/13635995478285822763noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-74063516851899720462013-08-28T10:55:45.489-07:002013-08-28T10:55:45.489-07:00Difference between trial of kasab by Indian courts...Difference between trial of kasab by Indian courts, and the trial of vAli by rAma:<br />Indian courts have followed the due procedure, and gave enough opportunities to kasab to defend himself. Unfortunately, there was enough direct evidence to sentence him with death. It was definitely the rarest of the rarest cases to deserve Capital punishment.<br /><br />On the other hand, Rama was not kingybr (alias ybrao a donkey)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13635995478285822763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-26281261696879090772011-03-03T01:25:51.956-08:002011-03-03T01:25:51.956-08:00In your comments you have said Kaikeyi is from nep...In your comments you have said Kaikeyi is from nepal. I have tracked the messengers going to Bharata in Kaykey rajya and returning from there to Ayodya. It clearly leads to Afghanistan. Please refer to my blog http://mghariharan.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/kaikeyi-a-nepali-or-afghan/Hariharanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08318384937423391453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-27129985197010284162010-12-19T23:45:08.912-08:002010-12-19T23:45:08.912-08:00Let me summarize. We have concluded that Rama was ...Let me summarize. We have concluded that Rama was not lying he did not eat meat in the forest. Now let us take Vali Vadha. This is the most difficult situation .Rama bhaktha’s like Tuslidas have censored this portion Meaning that he has declared Rama guilty. You said Valmiki may have forgotten in some case In this case it is worse. All guns are loaded against Rama. Even Dundubhi saya to Vali I M G Hariharanhttp://mghariharan.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-13339657530234687312010-12-15T23:03:08.086-08:002010-12-15T23:03:08.086-08:00I find my comments in other columns are not being ...I find my comments in other columns are not being answered by you. Probably you are waiting. But I request your reply for this comment. It is a clarification regarding your comment 94/95 After Bharadwaj muni Rama again goes and kills and eats( Exactly similar to Guha episode). But the word in sloka is charathur (Charathi = Sanchara or roaming) How did you translate it as ate. So here again Just M G hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-15950510642849333072010-11-12T00:05:56.105-08:002010-11-12T00:05:56.105-08:00No No I am not belittling your understanding. The ...No No I am not belittling your understanding. The problem unlike religious books Ramayana does to discuss the subject. It is as if Valmiki has recorded the scene and voices and presented it to us. It is for us to translate and learn from it. Each person’s perspective will be different and conclusions can be different. You have asked about Vali vadh. It will be interesting to note that Sugriva didM G Hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-28848209473758231662010-11-09T21:02:11.676-08:002010-11-09T21:02:11.676-08:00We seem to be talking in parallel. I am not disput...We seem to be talking in parallel. I am not disputing that Rama killed animals for sport. Valmiki has written it. If according to you this shows a low character in Rama then so it is. I want you to understand that you cannot read Ramayana with these sorts of modern ethical parameters and comment. Morals also change with time. Hunting is not a bad activity (Sport). Till recently it was in vogue. M G Hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-34499327547807971962010-11-08T00:50:45.101-08:002010-11-08T00:50:45.101-08:001.You are commenting as of others say Rama is Karu...1.You are commenting as of others say Rama is Karunanidhi. There are two types of people who comment about Ramayana. One has blins faith and do not want to discuss like we are doing. The others put slipper garland for Rama and roam on the street. Who are you if as you say you have come with open mind then address what I am saying<br />2. The moral ethical mistake that you are pointing is wrong M G Hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-63526867143080374532010-11-01T21:55:13.282-07:002010-11-01T21:55:13.282-07:00Truth is always valid-Past and present. We should ...Truth is always valid-Past and present. We should not jump to conclusions by extrapolation.Valmiki is describing every action in detail Why assume? He is definitely not vegetarian There are other slokas in Aydya kanda. But in Forest we have to go by what he says to Guha.<br />Compasinate to animals is far fetched in those days.<br />Rama worshiped - is difficult proposition. People whio worship M G hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-24485754499196622612010-10-31T22:59:41.059-07:002010-10-31T22:59:41.059-07:00The sloka 2-52-144 killed Objection to killing fo...The sloka 2-52-144 killed Objection to killing for sport. These ethical attitudes are always changing. Ramayana is during the period of living by hunting. Not agriculture. Man is only ape who eats by hunting unlike other apes (Refer to naked Ape by Desmond Moris). As a King hunting is a regular requirement to fine tune their shooting skills. This cannot be called a ethical error. Man continues M G hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-20187033340914190702010-10-29T03:31:33.809-07:002010-10-29T03:31:33.809-07:00They are Kings and they can kill for pleasure. Kin...They are Kings and they can kill for pleasure. Kindness etc. that you perceive is modern and not a hindu trait. these are post budhism and jainisam qualities.<br />you are free to believe Rama is unkind to animals. just as gandhi thinks Rama is non violent. These are perception differences. Post your blog we are still working on some aspects of this vegeterianism.Shall revert with more clear M G Hariharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38048632.post-69599294755790160012010-10-27T23:18:35.554-07:002010-10-27T23:18:35.554-07:00Sorry they would have eaten it is your presumption...Sorry they would have eaten it is your presumption.When Rama says he does not eat flesh, how can you not accept it. the sloka clearly says killed as sport. Subsequently the become hungry and rest under the tree is all that sloka says.M G Hariharannoreply@blogger.com